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We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.
We are back,
and we've got so much to talk about,
I don't even know what to say.
From the gym to the screen, yeah,
we cover it all.
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Half hour hustle, yeah,
we building that brand.
Grab a plate, tune in now,
you part of the fam.
Don't mind me,
I just have to make a purchase real
quick.
New Lego sets out,
and I don't want to lose it.
no god forbid make sure you made that
happen before they sell out because
they're probably not making any small
bricks to make into bigger bricks to the
shape of an f-one helmet yeah yeah i'm
i was telling you man i am i
am
Gosh, I am so addicted.
Like I just told you, it's a thing.
You put it together.
We're messing with Joseph's head.
Hold on.
What?
There we go.
Sorry.
Is that better, Joseph?
Yeah.
God forbid.
I don't want...
Joseph's mind to explode, that'd be bad.
Yes, call it an addiction,
call it what you want,
but at least when you get done with
it, you have something like, hey,
I just built this thing.
Whether it be a Legos or not,
who gives a shit,
but it's done and you can look at
it and go,
look at how cool this is.
i uh i finished the classic batmobile
right before i went to uh syndicate like
the adam west TV show version yes sir
i haven't even posted a picture it is
super cool it is it's about yay big
is it really it's a big one barely
fits on my shelf is it as big
as that sign that's behind you
No, no, no, no.
Not as big as the sign.
Not as big as my McLaren F-One.
Maybe about F-One Batmobile.
Oh, like a, like a, like a,
like a, like a, like a, like a,
like a, like a, like a, like a,
like a,
no no it's the the new it's like
a twenty twenty four the car that raced
that won the the championship twenty
twenty five oh okay not a mclaren f-one
but a mclaren f-one car yeah got it
i'm a car i am i am
I've been addicted to cars since I saw
Smokey and the Bandit when I was a
little kid.
Sports cars, name it, whatever.
But F-One racing has never appealed to me
very much for whatever reason.
You need to watch Drive to Survive.
I get it.
Watch Drive to Survive,
and now I'm addicted to F-One.
yeah uh and i understand that i did
watch uh i say did what like it
matters unnecessarily but um oh not the
new f-one movie that just came out with
uh but the one about the one with
uh with thor and the german dude
Anyway, true story.
F one from like back in the sixties
and whatnot.
Okay.
I think I remember,
I know what you're talking about.
I just can't remember the title either.
I can't remember how to save my life,
but it was outstanding.
Like really, really good.
I love stuff like that.
Joseph Vermeer's son just took two weeks
to build the Titanic.
That's a massive set.
Is he going to break it in half
and sink it to the bottom of the
North Sea now?
He's at somebody's pool doing it right
now.
Rush.
Thank you, Tristan.
When I won the games,
I bought myself a Lego R-II D-II.
that's cool i'm gonna tell you what i
would what i would buy right now if
i had five hundred dollars to just blow
on like ridiculous shit have you seen the
iron man mask that you put on that
like yep i would aggravate the ever-living
shit out of my wife and like just
roll into the house with it oh those
things look so cool and they're like voice
activated
So you can just put it on until
it closes up or whatnot.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
I would spend, if I had four dollars,
just blow out one hundred percent by one
of those.
Yeah.
Good investment, says Joseph.
Joseph understands.
So before we dive into the CrossFit stuff,
my wife and I sat down and watched
a new show last night called Maximum
Pleasure Guaranteed.
didn't know this is the route we were
going to take this morning but all right
here we go so here's the premise of
the show and that this is what sucked
me in and the first episode did not
disappoint it's a woman who's recently
divorced her husband gets the house the
whole nine she's moving into an apartment
she's feeling isolated so she hires a
person online to have online sex with but
they really just talk a lot
They just hang out.
Now, they do the other stuff too.
Show it on the show,
but that's the premise, right?
During one of their interactions,
someone comes into the guy's apartment,
grabs him, attacks him,
beats the shit out of him,
and now she's a witness to all this,
but she doesn't even know his real name.
As you do.
And then they call her saying they want
fifty thousand dollars or they're going to
kill him.
Jesus Christ.
Is that a movie or a series?
Series.
Got it.
That was episode one.
And I'm leaving it there.
There's a lot more that happens in episode
one.
But that's how it kicks off.
What?
Apple TV.
Apple TV.
Apple TV.
tux i get dude people tell me cool
stuff about like oh i just saw this
new show man this happened what was it
on apple tv that's the one thing i
don't have all right appreciate it high
fives all around right along uh omar the
name is maximum pleasure guaranteed
guaranteed yeah it is uh apple tv's been
killing it lately
they have a whole bunch of good stuff
and there's much stuff on there i would
love to see i i'm probably watching more
on it than any other streaming service
right now the uh
the the monsters series like godzilla and
and whatnot is that on there like that
i would love to check out i love
that kind of stuff ted lasso's coming back
this summer i've heard yep i heard ted
lasso's coming back my daughter actually
loves godzilla big fan big fan um and
more so uh actually king kong we watched
king kong versus godzilla no less than six
times with her like it's it's insane
considering she's eight and a girl
she loves king kong um so i would
love to be able to show her that
but i've heard that's good helson um we
also just finished up the last thing he
told me margot's having money problems uh
both great and then shrinking and ted
lasso are like epic all time
I tell you what we watched last night,
or finished up watching, I should say,
on Netflix is...
worst x ever i believe it's called
something along those lines it's true so
it's like true crime stuff because my wife
is into that concept my wife is so
into that stuff i try to avoid it
dude the first episode is it involves a
dude that ended up going on a uh
day fiance
Like, towards the...
But while he was being...
He got arrested for beating up his
fiancée.
This is the third time this has happened,
FYI.
Like, his wife, first wife...
assaulted her,
assaulted and I think raped,
and then second wife assaulted for sure,
was working on the third one,
had her engaged and whatnot,
beat the ever-living shit out of her one
night for no apparent reason.
They didn't get in an argument,
none of that stuff.
During that period of time,
Right up until right up until or right
before I say he beat her and she
got away from him.
He was also in an online relationship with
his other chick and was getting doing all
the things to be on ninety day fiance.
Like at the same time, got arrested,
got bailed out, was on the show.
they didn't get wind of that at all
and then i guess they ended up eventually
pulling him once they figured out like all
his history and whatnot and is now in
jail for like thirty something years but
it was an insane story dude insane story
uh do you read with godzira
Look, it's Godzilla.
No, it's not Godzilla.
For copyright purposes, it's not Godzilla.
But we should still run like it's
Godzilla.
I have not watched.
I need to watch those again.
Well,
let's dive into a little bit of CrossFit.
So Sunday night,
I made a comment on the show because
Hillard made the comment that his behind
the scenes were the best ever.
He did say that out loud.
And I made a comment that I'm tired
of the, like,
I misread it as competition between the
two camps and more of this infighting
thing.
So I made a comment about it and
then ended up texting with Hiller a ton
last night about the whole thing.
And I misread it.
I'm just super sensitive to this fighting
back and forth stuff.
Well,
because we get it from both sides and
people are like,
I can't tell you how many people told
me when they met me in person in
Birmingham how happy they were that we do
not get involved with that shit.
Like, we're just like, like,
we watch it from both sides.
I was like, dude,
we watch it just like the rest of
y'all.
Like, we're like this.
I'm like, oh, okay, that just happened.
And then, oh, okay, that just happened.
And like, we go on about our business.
I did also make a comment that DB
yelled at Ortega and Dents used it.
Yeah, that is a fact.
And I was wrong, Jonathan,
because DB even said in the behind the
scenes that Hiller made that she was
yelling at her judge.
Yeah.
So you are off the hook now.
And I apologize that that got clipped.
However,
what I want to say about the Hiller
thing is it is phenomenal.
His behind the scenes is really good,
is probably the best piece of content I've
seen.
And the reason that is is because there
were so many storylines from that
syndicate crown.
You had Saxon and Haley with the chips
on their shoulder trying to make the
comeback.
You had the devastation of Nate and Janie
Chevery, and he captured that.
You had the rollercoaster weekend from DB.
You had Austin pulling an Austin.
And then you had Ty and Lydia quietly
just doing their thing.
and almost got lost in the shuffle because
of all the other storylines around it.
Because there was a lot happening, yeah.
And so it did turn out to be
like maybe the best piece of content I've
ever seen and definitely by far the best
piece I've seen in the last five years.
Yeah.
But what I do want to say is
it also highlights that when you have
drama at an event,
storylines become greater sure but it it
it accentuates it there's already a
storyline going on and you just add in
a little bit of okay let's add in
a little bit of drama and then all
of a sudden it's it's magnified right five
or ten times so if we went back
to a one and done scenario
These storylines would amplify, right?
Way higher.
How devastated Janie and Nate were,
and they've got another chance.
Yeah.
Imagine if they didn't.
A hundred percent.
And Saxon even says it in the behind
the scenes.
Like he comes from a world where you
had to bring your best on that weekend
or you wait another year.
And that's why he does the visualization
and tries to just be amongst him,
just with himself in the back.
And like all that stuff that came out
was really, really good.
And I just want to publicly apologize for
saying that to Hiller because,
and I use this analogy, right?
T.O.
told you he was the greatest wide receiver
in the NFL.
You didn't have to ask him.
Barry Sanders let everybody else say he
was the greatest running back in the NFL.
Absolutely.
Both are okay.
Yeah.
You may prefer one over the other.
It's two different approaches.
Right.
Cause I said to Andrew,
like I'm willing to say if it's great,
I'm willing to say that was the best,
best piece ever,
but it's also okay for him to say
that he's proud of it and it,
and he believes it's the best ever.
When I was way back when getting to
be a crane operator,
one of my bosses told me when we
were driving by and said,
don't ever brag on yourself.
And it kind of stuck with me because
when you get good enough,
other people will do it for you.
You ain't got to worry about it.
Just keep your head down, keep working,
keep moving along.
And sooner or later,
you're going to get recognition whether
you want it or not.
So I agree with that category.
I find my way.
But I also understand coming out and
saying, if nothing else,
saying this is the best piece of content
I've ever done.
And standing alone from everybody else's.
I know for a fact that's the best
one that I've ever done,
and if you watch it,
you will probably agree with me, right?
And I think that's probably a lot more
along the lines of what he's saying.
Maybe he's not.
Maybe he's looking at it and going, no,
no,
this is the best one that's ever been
put out.
I mean,
it was a long back and forth we
had last night.
Yeah.
Long for me.
I'm not a wordy guy when I'm not
on the air, but...
He made some real...
The guy works his ass off to make
content, to make it good,
to make it the best.
And if you're proud of it,
be proud of it.
You should be.
And I shouldn't have jumped to judgment
the other night.
That's all I'm saying.
But I am sick of the infighting stuff.
I mean...
dense ended again with a shot this morning
why why do we need the shots it's
it's just stupid i will say this about
jenny it's what she does but she can
do that with the drama in the space
without making it personal
I think what Sten's saying,
drama drives clicks and views.
It's going to get you more attention,
get you more of that stuff.
So I'm not mad at it.
It's not something I would do,
but I'm not mad at her for doing
it because that's just what she does.
And she's going to say what's on her
mind.
The stuff she just does is great.
Why do you have to add that piece
at the end?
That's her.
All right.
So be it.
I mean,
I watch every dense update that comes out.
I do too.
I watch just about every content in the
space.
I want the content.
I just don't need it.
I personally don't need the extra.
It's what it comes with.
It's like ordering something at a
restaurant and you get what you ordered
and you get something else that you know
you're not going to eat,
but it's just there with it.
What are you going to do?
That's what came with it.
So anyway,
I see people saying unsubscribing and
blocking.
Please don't block us.
Please like and subscribe to the channel.
We really appreciate it.
We had almost fifteen hundred views on
Sunday night with only three thousand
subscribers.
It's amazing.
It's amazing engagement with all of that.
And I love all of you for that.
But it'd be nice to get a little
bit of the subscriber rate up a little
bit higher.
so like and subscribe folks like and
subscribe i can't it's super easy as corey
says it's free it's just free it is
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Yeah, it is.
I don't watch or I get all my
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Nice.
If that's the case, Shannon,
you are getting a wide variety of
information.
Yeah, we are.
We're all over the place.
Y'all are the most watchable in the space.
Seconds to Hiller.
Okay, I'll take that.
Hey, number two works harder.
We've already had this discussion.
Yep.
Yep.
What else do I want to talk about?
Someone got a two-year suspension for
being corrupt with their judging.
I'm excited.
I am legitimately excited.
Danny Camacho received a two-year ban,
and he has competed in the WFP.
He has competed at the elite level, and...
he is no longer allowed to compete for
two years because he said he was the
judge for a master's athlete.
And he was not, well,
he was not qualified.
He did not have his level.
His own had expired.
So that's crazy to me.
It's good.
Let's let's stop the madness.
but you gotta stop the bleeding at some
point and that's what it's gonna take to
like hey let's send a message suspend this
dude for two years i want to see
what happens to the masters athlete who
had someone
who wasn't that someone show up on camera
and say they were that someone yes like
i want to see those people get the
suspension as well it probably doesn't
have the impact on them because other than
the masters athlete they're not they're
probably not elite level no but still it's
not the point
Are we only publishing elites?
No.
If this is a community event and you
are part of the community and you came
out and did something that was wrong,
then you deserve to be punished.
You came out and you do.
Anybody who's done online the past couple
of years with the two judges and this
one has to have this test and this
one has to have that test and whatnot,
I can tell you from experience,
it's not an easy thing to coordinate at
all.
I understand.
But that does not mean that you get
to circumvent it just because, well,
I just want to do it because I
qualified and I know I'm not going to
make the games and whatnot.
I don't care.
The rules are still the rules.
They're there for a reason.
You don't get to just go, well,
I'll just act like this guy is somebody
else just because you don't like him or
you can't.
If you don't, you don't get to play.
I mean,
I don't know what else to tell you.
If you can't follow the rules,
you don't get to play.
Wayne said there was an affiliate owner
involved in that one.
Then something should be done.
Then, yeah.
The affiliate owner was stupid enough to
sign off on it, then he's stupid.
Like, I don't know what to tell you.
It's idiotic.
You should know better.
Yeah.
I want to say that more than Camacho
got punished on this.
Yeah.
I have, I had my, this, okay,
let me see.
The athlete also received a two year ban.
Yep.
So it was Camacho and the athlete.
And the athlete actually finished fourth
in the women's fifty five to fifty nine
division in the twenty twenty six CrossFit
Open.
She followed that up with a fourth place
finish in quarterfinals.
Her online semifinal scores have been
since removed.
It says all three individuals were not
permitted to participate in any CrossFit
Games Seasons event.
So there was someone else too.
Probably the second judge.
Both judge...
Yeah.
Camacho was the floor judge.
The head judge got suspended,
but he's not named.
And Nira Aregi got suspended as well.
Aregi.
So, yeah.
Sucks to suck.
So the other thing I wanted to talk
about is we have these online semifinals
coming up.
And we were just trying to name names
off the top of our head of who
still needs to qualify on Sunday night.
And the spin actually put out a list.
I did.
I wanted to look at that this morning.
I just haven't had enough time.
And it's crazy, dude.
So the first part of the list are
people that were games athletes last year.
So you've got Medeiros, Mertens, Lowen,
Gracie Walton,
while Pat Vellner not last year,
but former.
And then others who were Harry Lightfoot,
Chris Ibarra, Colin Bossard, Nick Matthew,
Yonikoski, Enrico Zanoni, Jorge Fernandez,
Isaac Newman, Bill Leahy, Peter Ellis,
Henrique Moyera, and Tiago Luzes.
have yet to qualify on the men's side.
On the women's side, Raptus,
Claudia Gluck, Fisa Goffi, Lexi Neely,
Sydney McElishan, Hattie Canio,
Mariana Meza, Maria Quintero, Emily DeRoy,
and Luisa Marquez.
And then you go further into the people
that just didn't qualify yet.
Emily Rolfe, Guy Mejeros, Sidney Wells,
Spencer Pancheck, Nate Ackerman,
Quinn Robinson, Janie Chevery,
Reese Littlewood, Erica Folo,
and Tom Kingdon.
And they're only taking seven.
And the only seven tickets on each side.
That is going to be a bloodbath.
It's going to be a wild weekend.
People are going to bury themselves.
And the disappointing piece of this is
seven tickets for what?
Fourteen, fifteen on each side,
maybe more.
And we don't get to see any of
it.
Yeah, that sucks.
We don't get to watch any of this
drama take place.
No,
you're going to get to see video
secondhand.
It just, that's,
you make the most dramatic part of your
season.
The games aren't the dramatic part.
It's just making the champion, right?
And half the people are just excited to
be there.
At the semifinal level,
everybody's dying to get there.
And we're missing that.
We're completely missing it.
Because it is an online competition.
And all of the drama was placed right
there where nobody could see it.
This is the whole men will die for
points part of it.
Trying to get there.
Because let's be honest,
what are they taking, twenty this year?
Twenty men, twenty women?
Thirty.
Thirty and thirty and thirty.
So let's say the top fifteen,
everybody's going to know who the top
fifteen are.
A couple of outliers here and there are
going to be competing for podium spots.
And the rest of them are going to
be competing because they're there.
Not to say that they're not going to
be trying to do their very best by
any stretch of the imagination,
but it is going to be a seven
to ten person race for at least the
first couple of days.
And then once the leaderboard shakes out,
you're going to have a pretty good idea
of what's going to happen for us since
then and the rest of the people.
But like you said, getting there,
that's way more, that's way different.
way different just trying to get there it
is a incredible struggle to try to fight
your way into getting to the games and
then once you're there you're there like
holy shit now i can call myself a
games athlete yeah i um i'm so
disappointed because when you watch like
killers behind the scenes the the what it
meant to those people because it was the
last in-person weekend yeah
elevated it to a certain level and now
we're going to like another level that
nobody's even going to see dude just go
back and watch nate ackerman after the
last event gene every at the end of
that just sobbing yeah
Nate looked like somebody had just told
him that his grandpa died.
Like, he was just sitting there,
staring off into space,
completely disconnected from what was
going on around him.
Like,
you probably could have had a whole
conversation with him,
and he wouldn't have known what was going
on.
Did you watch the last episode of Hiller's
thing yet?
No.
So there's a scene where,
right after the handstand walk,
where Nate gets no-repped?
Mm-hmm.
he's,
he goes to the back right off the
floor, make a left right there,
just laying flat out on the cold cement
and like lays there till Dom comes and
picks him up.
Yeah.
Hey man, get up.
It like,
I thought the sitting on the cooler was
rough.
That laying on the cement was about,
I mean, I wanted to cry.
Yeah.
Yeah, man,
that was rough watching Nate after that
event.
Heart-wrenching to see that, but man,
when one person wins,
another person loses.
Somebody's got to.
But that sport,
and that's what makes it great.
And that's the piece we're missing.
It's so damn frustrating.
I feel like we're taking a lot from
the last chance qualifier.
Yeah.
Nate Ackerman's journey missing by one
place from NorCal.
Then again at Syndicate.
Man, I hope he gets through online.
I am worried about the kid.
Like the way he,
as despondent as he looked after that
event and after the overall competition
was rough.
Yeah.
Can he bounce back in two weeks?
I certainly hope so.
there's a scene in that where dom gets
emotional man it is i am telling you
the the emotions invoked in the last
episode are insane that's the only one i
haven't seen yet so i am one hundred
percent and agree with daniel last year's
qualifier two people two two dudes two
chicks last two spots everything else
should be in person
My feeling is we don't even need a
last chance qualifier,
but if we're going to have it.
And when we had it in the past,
it was one.
Yeah.
One female, one male got a chance.
That's it.
I would even say to do, uh,
like they did in when we actually got
to see everybody do the online part,
the part of the games, right.
They said,
judges and camera crews like crossfit sent
people out there you don't even do that
with seven people like that's a bit much
but if it's only two then everybody still
gets to see and you get to get
involved in invested in what uh what
actually what is actually going on a whole
lot more than just seeing scores go up
on a leaderboard and watching people's
videos back after the fact
Shana says he has to.
That is also sport.
Needs to learn to handle the mental side.
I agree with you, Shana.
I just, after watching him, I don't,
I hope he has the resilience to do
it.
Yeah.
Well,
I think he's in good hands with Dom
for sure to try to kind of,
you know,
help to manage that and work through the
entire thing.
I'd be a lot more worried, concerned.
I mean, I say worried.
I don't know a kid enough to be
worried.
But I'd be a lot more concerned if
he was, you know,
I'm just going to do this program by
myself.
And he's just a freaking nature fit type
stuff and kind of getting there.
But I think he's got the right guidance
behind him to kind of try to navigate
it.
Daniel says, that's being too smart,
Scott.
Slow down.
Yeah, I...
probably no way this is our ideas because
we're entirely too smart i think that's
what uh yeah none of our ideas ever
make it to the to the mainstream because
we're entirely too intelligent so on
another another topic did you watch any of
peter and adrian this morning
i have not i was at physical therapy
all morning uh i saw it come live
but i need to i love me some
adrian monweiler and peter so my
suggestion is jump to the forty five
minute mark oh okay they talk they start
talking about mad fit and all of the
stuff that happened there and all of the
goings on because adrian was competing
there yes and adrian has he does not
pull punches
He actually did.
He actually said there are other things
and other conversations he had that he
would not share on the air.
So when you hear what he does share,
it makes you wonder, holy shit,
what is he holding back?
But it is...
There's so much that happened at MadFit.
I don't even know how to sort it
out in my head listening to that
conversation.
About to come off that.
And apparently there was no limit to the
amount of appeals that happened.
And Mundweiler said like,
it is the longest line he's ever seen
for appeals at an event because,
and he never saw any of them get
denied.
It's like they granted every single
appeal.
So once that trend started,
everybody was appealing everything.
Why wouldn't you?
Hey,
they're giving out free scores over here
at this table.
Okay,
I'm going to go get my shit adjusted.
And I think it was Callum Clements
appealed –
something and because they made him do too
many of something i don't even remember
what again there was so much stuff to
sort it all out in my head is
i'm still processing right but essentially
they said well what do you want your
score to be and he said i want
twenty seconds back and they said well we
can't give you twenty but we'll give you
ten it's done it's not a negotiation dude
Like, how the, how?
He just sat there.
He sits up there bartering for points.
I mean, but it's all right.
Look, just give me twenty seconds.
Best I can do is ten.
Well,
and that's where the point five comes in.
Because they they gave him back ten
seconds.
And that's where the point five is.
So it's not points.
It was actually seconds.
And it's the only time on the entire
scoreboard that isn't dot zero zero.
Holy smokes.
And so Peter actually made a great point.
Either one of two things happened.
They gave him ten seconds back and they
looked at the judge's card and his time
actually was point five and they just
added ten.
Okay,
here we got a little clarification there.
Or they saw the result was going to
be a tie,
and they gave Callum the .
five to get him over the tie.
Yeah, just to eliminate the tie.
So apparently he did fifteen extra double
honors on a buy-in,
so they gave him an extra rep of
the sandbag, which is an AMRAP.
So that's a different story.
Oh, okay.
Again, there's so much that happened.
so much that happened that it's really
hard to sort it all out bro i
gotta watch it all right so yeah he
got ten seconds back on the sandbag
workout he was given an a rep that
he did not complete yeah that's yeah i
like this uh so much that describes it
exactly
like adrian just kept and peter tried to
jump to like another story new and i'm
not done here let me finish and then
we'll jump to what you're talking about
jeez okay and that happened like three or
four times um i will that's next on
my watch list i'm gonna skip i'm gonna
postpone dents and i'll pull that up
instead the other the other thing is they
used a scoring system
where the point differential between
places was only two points.
So essentially,
whatever happened on the first event,
everything was going to kind of stay that
way because there wasn't enough gap
between the points to make up any ground,
right?
Well, no,
you remember Matt Fraser went a year,
they,
they changed the point system up to where
it was like a three point difference or
a six point difference.
And he was like, do all this work,
bust my hump.
What do I got?
Three point lead or six point lead,
whatever it was, something stupid.
And I was like, man, that's like,
if you,
maybe if you got events going on,
I can understand that.
Cause then you might be able to get
some separation after you get going for a
little bit, but not for five or six,
whatever it was.
Bruh.
No, thank you.
That's insane.
Yeah,
that was two thousand nineteen because of
so many people.
I can I can now read Vicky because
that's I mean,
I got I got so many out of
that.
Imagine lose the semis in the future.
Well, and here's the here's the piece.
Again, if true,
CrossFit had representation at the event.
yona koski went to talk to them because
he wants the sport to be better he
wasn't trying to get a spot or take
callum's spot or any of those things and
apparently the the crossfit representative
was not nice to yona was rude was
pompous and that that is directly from
adrian wow
I would never understand that.
So if you're if that's the way you're
going to treat the events as CrossFit HQ,
or the representative you send is going to
treat it that way.
Dude,
we we got a long way to go.
Serious self reflection would be how I
would look at that like needs to take
place.
That's bananas.
Not good bananas.
Bad bananas.
I mean,
if I go out and represent the state
and there are complaints the way that I
treat people,
there are ramifications when I come back
to do my job.
As there should be.
As there should be.
I work in sales.
If I treat somebody like an idiot whenever
they call me,
whether they are one or not,
it's not going to go well for me.
well you're just you're losing money
quickly and if it gets bad enough like
we could lose a whole lot more than
that depending on how bad it gets like
we get reported to the insurance
commission like that there's a there's all
kinds of layers of that kind of so
wayne asked does the cac review these
issues and discuss with hq i am sure
That especially with Seth,
they're going to review it.
They're going to have a discussion,
but ultimately the CAC is not a decision
maker.
No, they are a council.
They can give input feedback,
that type of stuff,
but they don't make any decisions.
So like what power do they actually have?
They're an advisory board.
That is it.
So none.
Really and truly, it's none.
They can't just be like, oh, yeah, no,
we said this,
and now this is going to happen.
They can make suggestions, and hey,
we looked at this and found out that
this was going on,
so maybe you should look at that.
But ultimately,
it's going to be whoever they give their
findings to,
whether or not they actually do anything
about it.
Again,
you have complaints coming out of Rebel
that the judges determine the outcome.
I mean,
we heard Mathilde Garnes talking about her
handstands.
The second place team said it was
predetermined who the first place team was
going to be.
And the judges made that happen.
Now at MAD,
you have all of this stuff coming where
all appeals are granted.
I mean,
all I can picture is Oprah like,
you get a win, you get a win,
you get a win.
Well, it's like Wayne said,
or somewhere up there in the comments,
like, oh, no, no, no.
I meant to load three-ten,
not three-oh-five.
I need you to change my score to
that.
Sorry.
Well, and one of the appeals gave,
I think, Callum a win, an event win.
And so when it came down to a
points tiebreaker with Yonah,
Then they were tied for event wins.
So it went to then their next play.
Like it, dude, I'm telling you,
go to the forty five minute mark,
hit play,
and it's just one thing after another,
after another, after another,
after another.
Yeah,
that's the sandbag workout that one rep
made him tie for the win.
so therefore he got he also yeah yona
got screwed sounds like it sounds like it
which is sad because i've never heard
anything bad about yonakoski no dude he
stayed in the same hotel we did at
the games twenty twenty twenty twenty two
um and he did well that year that
he was leading for a lot of the
beginning of the competition i think he
finished top five or something there was a
norwegian party in the hotel that night
not a norwegian cruise line party like an
actual norwegian party yeah got it is that
where is he i i'm trying to remember
where he's from yeah i think that's right
It was crazy.
They were in the lobby just killing it.
And he was fun, man.
He still talked to us.
He was awesome.
Finland.
Finland.
Yes.
There was a Finnish party.
Yeah.
Who doesn't like a Finnish party?
That's what it is.
Thank you, Shanna.
Finnish.
Finnish party.
I get the cross flags mixed up.
I mean, they're all from the same area,
the same general area.
It's just, it's the color wave that,
that rates them.
Yep.
Yeah.
But anyway, um,
uh was ncc not a mess and nate
nackerman screwed last year i think
crossfit did step in to make sure it
was not repeated no idea i don't know
like i don't know i know ben and
blair didn't want it to happen again
correct it took an organizer saying we
don't want this to happen again what role
crossfit played in that we can only
speculate right
We'll never get that full story.
Right.
But CrossFit gave up ownership of this
level of,
at this stage of the competition.
So you're at the mercy of,
of other event organizers,
unless you build it back in that you
have oversight.
You're kind of screwed.
Well, like, like we said before, it's a,
it's a tricky thing to navigate to say,
okay.
I'm going to give you guys this thing.
You get us the best people to the
games.
Do it however you want to do it.
Whatever's going to go on.
So they're going to take that and they're
going to do whatever they got to do,
whatever they do with it.
And the people who end up suffering are
the guys who end up getting screwed,
the Yonakoskis of the world, right?
Because as athletes, all you can do
is get there and do the best you
can and you can't help how it's run
you can't help how it's judged you can't
help how any of that kind of stuff
goes on so you end up getting screwed
well whose fault is it well crossfit says
it's not their fault because they give it
to these guys well you the one that
gave it to those guys though so what
happens to correct it is where the problem
comes in because now what are you gonna
do next year
You're going to try to give it to
somebody else.
You're going to try to step in and
tell these people how to run their event.
If the event organizers don't give a damn,
Glennon Blair, give a damn.
That much is obvious.
Tristan's saying right now, like,
NCC was much smoother this year.
So if the event organizers don't give a
damn,
and it doesn't seem like the ones in
Spain and South Africa do because the
judges apparently are just getting
together and saying, oh,
this team's going to win.
It's fine, whatever.
Or whoever greased those palms.
And then the people at MadFit are just
like, oh, yeah,
you get a score in just a minute.
You get a score.
Everybody gets whatever score they think
they should.
So what do you do about it?
You can't do anything about it in the
moment.
You can't go back and tell them,
I'm not taking those people.
I'm taking these people because y'all
screwed it up.
It's a tricky thing to navigate at that
point without just saying, again,
what you're not going to do is just
take ownership completely back and
basically what people keep trying to say
is bring back regionals,
which is never going to happen.
It can't happen.
It's just people need to think
strategically instead of...
So I'm going to address this,
and hopefully it doesn't take me too long
to go on.
Scott,
my understanding is from listening to
Castro is there are better ways to the
games,
but they are not cost-effective for
CrossFit.
What we have now is affordable.
So...
why couldn't we have a regional-type
qualification to the games?
First of all,
it boggles my mind that you have a
championship and you don't control the
path to that championship.
Right?
Name another sport where you don't have
control to the championship game.
To who plays in a championship game.
Right.
It'd be like if two teams just randomly
showed up for the Super Bowl and be
like, hey, we're here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's hard to even come up with an
example.
Yeah.
But anyway,
you could have a regional style
qualification using the current event that
we have.
Sure.
Yeah.
and maybe a couple others,
where CrossFit actually steps in and says,
we're going to have oversight on this.
We want to see your programming.
You have to use this appeal process.
You have to use this point system.
The fact that everyone can do whatever
point system they want and whatever appeal
process and whatever this and that is
freaking ludicrous.
Yeah, I would agree to that.
Just come in,
make a couple rules that they have to
abide by.
Make sure that you don't just do a
cursory overview of the programming.
You actually look at it and make sure
that it makes sense.
You could still have a regional type thing
and go back to one and done.
If you go to one and done and
you're assigned a regional area and
then the regional,
the people with the events know who their
lineup is right away.
You get rid of the damn invites.
You get rid of all that stuff and
people canceling last minute and all of
that stuff that screw the event organizers
over.
They give them a set lineup that they
can actually market and that they know
what's coming and just put some guardrails
up.
Yeah,
because right now it's the Wild West.
And you can still let them run the
event,
but give them an opportunity to actually
make some money.
Because who wants to spend whatever money
they're charging you to get in when you
don't know who's going to cancel last
minute?
Or who's going to show up last minute.
But if it's your only shot,
you know damn well they're coming.
Regardless of what else is going on in
their lives.
Right.
Rich Froning.
I keep thinking of Rich Froning, the flu.
Dude had a hundred and two degree fever
and qualified for the games because he had
no choice.
But if you tell Jeff Adler,
you only get,
the only way you're going to get to
qualify is if you go to syndicate.
I bet she shows up at syndicate.
A hundred percent.
Jason Hopper.
Hey, brother,
you either come in here or you're not
going anywhere.
Good luck.
You think he just shows up to the
French throwdown on a whim again?
No, he does not.
He goes where you tell him to go.
Even the early twenties when they said –
when they took the continent of North
America and split the –
candidates up in four groups sent them to
the four different regions europe they
split it up half and half sent the
people to the regions that was a better
way than what we have today you had
a set lineup it wasn't regionally based
other than australia were australians
south america were south americans africa
were africans period full stop
Yes, Sean, that's actually a good...
It's like the Yankees flying around the
country deciding which teams they want to
play to get to the World Series.
It's bonkers.
Yeah.
Pick the Tigers because you know you're
going to win.
Yeah, it's...
Even like twenty one and twenty two when
we first got out of covid was a
way better system than we have today.
And yeah, Tristan,
get rid of the online spots.
Yeah,
if you're going to have a last chance,
it's one spot.
It's not seven.
Jesus Christ.
Seven online spots for one competition and
the most anyone competition had was three.
Make that make sense.
And I think the most in-person should be
five.
That would make a whole lot more sense
because then you eliminate the last
chance.
When you add the eastern U.S.
with thirteen spots,
the drama's gone there too.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Go Mayhem, Syndicate, NorCal, and Legends.
Split up and they all get five.
Easy peasy.
Done deal.
Didn't they used to even limit the number
of people able to do Last Chance?
Yeah,
it used to be like the next two
finishers that didn't qualify at each of
the in-person were all that qualified.
Something like that.
I may not have the number exactly right.
If they took five,
six and seven got to go to the
last chance.
Right.
It was definitely based on that.
There's probably some spreadsheet sitting
out there with how it actually works.
Tristan would be cool with more than five
if you go to huge regions again to
have an in-person event qualify the
majority of the athletes.
i think that's great if you're a coach
it sucks as a spectator you want the
drama yeah i said six seven judy let
it die judy so um anyway that that's
probably a discussion for another time but
yeah
But you could do it without CrossFit
taking over the regionals.
Just let the event organizers that you
have do it, but give them guardrails.
Direction.
Let's not even call it guardrails.
Just direction in general.
Yeah, like same point system.
At a minimum, the same point system.
And I love the syndicate.
You get two appeals.
And then you're done.
It's like challenges in football.
You get two.
It doesn't matter if you win or if
you don't win.
If you get it and they, yep,
that's cool.
If not, you get two, period.
George Wang, Densa updates,
hinted this might be the final year of
syndicate.
I know what she's talking about.
What I'll say is the way CrossFit does
not support the semifinals in a way by
giving them a lineup that is something
they can market to and the scramble that
they have to do to get athletes in
their building is hard on the events.
They don't make it easy.
They don't.
And there's no reason for them not to
make it easy.
And it slows the ticket sales down that
people will want to wait till last minute
till they know who is actually going to
show up.
I would love to see the graph on
the French throwdown when people found out
that Jason Hopper was going to be there.
Like ticket sales, ticket sales,
ticket sales, ticket sales, champs coming,
ticket sales.
I'm willing to bet that's what it looked
like.
I don't know.
I don't know what one person does.
If I'm looking at it as a fan,
I want it to be a competition worth
watching.
Do I have six or seven people fighting
for the three spots or ten people fighting
for the five?
I would also,
who doesn't want to see the champs?
If Ali was coming to box in your
town as opposed to whoever else is on
the card,
you're not going to see whoever else is
going to card.
You're going to see the guy that's the
baddest on the planet at the time.
Ortega says, Tristan,
what is your definition of empty and why
does it matter?
Empty seats matters.
If you want these people to foot the
bill, empty seats matters.
Lito is disagreeing with Corey.
Maybe if you live in Paris,
but I don't think anyone's taking a flight
or driving for hours if you weren't
already going just to see Jason.
Yeah, you might be right, Lito.
I'm not willing to die on that hill.
When I say I'm willing to bet,
it's like a nickel.
Not a paycheck, money, stretch,
and imagination.
I would just be curious to see if
it made a difference.
Let's put it like that.
If no one attends, you have no vendors.
That's a fact.
And you have event organizers going,
it's not worth it anymore.
Travis has said that a couple of different
times,
like he he picks where he's going by
whether or not he knows people are going
to be there.
And I'll say this as well is.
As far as the vendors and people selling
stuff,
Travis had one of his best weekends ever
at Syndicate over the weekend.
He said that himself,
which means that there were people there
buying and they were buying stuff.
And I will support Jonathan in this case.
There were a lot of people at Syndicate,
but people were moving in and out of
the seats throughout the day because it's
a long day.
So to judge from the stream like, oh,
there's empty seats,
there were times where there weren't very
many empty seats,
but there were people up and moving in
and out of the venue all the time.
Yeah.
I'm going to say this, too.
People moving in and out, dude,
If I'm competing and I have a longer,
long enough window in between events,
I'm not hanging out.
I'm going back to my Airbnb where it's
way more comfortable,
where I got a couch or a bed
or whatever.
I might take a shower and relax.
And then I'm coming back.
A lot of people do that.
Like I'm not necessarily just hanging out
at the venue all day.
Like I'm going to come and go as
I please.
Then rent a smaller venue that's not so
expensive.
But there are so many details that people
don't realize.
Like,
I know that Syndicate has a relationship
with the city of Knoxville.
There's a partnership.
But there has to be an ROI for
the city of Knoxville for us being there.
Yep.
And because of that partnership,
maybe they got the venue at a discounted
rate.
But Knoxville wants to see a return on
the investment.
Yeah,
they want to see tourism go up for
that weekend, by whatever numbers.
They want to see people in restaurants.
They want to see their economy go up.
They want to see all that stuff.
If they don't and they pull that
partnership,
is it viable then for Syndicate to hold
an event anymore?
There's so many details with event
organization that we don't think of
generally.
Yeah.
It's a whole lot that goes into it.
We'll end on this one.
How would you all feel if next year
one of the Xenom events became a
semifinal?
I don't think it...
I think it's apples and oranges.
It's not the same thing.
so uh i love tristan patrick all right
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